A good mystery always has a good “whodunnit” element. But in this interview Writer’s Relief found on Litub.com and the Reading Women Podcast, Paula Hawkins, author of The Girl on the Train, points out that moral intrigue is just as important as a good solve. If it’s a question of forgiveness or revenge, we often lean toward forgiveness. But is it really that simple? The reality of being human is never quite so black and white. What happens when it’s not so clear who’s the bad guy?

Listen to Hawkins’s full interview (or read the transcript) here.